Excellent news! Initially Dr. Stanton was going to speak at #SDPain22 virtually due to AU travel restrictions. Well, they've been lifted so @Tash_Stanton @youseelogic & @MelanieNoel will be together in one place! Talk about a powerhouse of Keynotes! https://t.co/w2Veybrozahttps://t.co/8OWHCQv54S
Excellent news! Initially Dr. Stanton was going to speak at #SDPain22 virtually due to AU travel restrictions. Well, they've been lifted so @Tash_Stanton @youseelogic & @MelanieNoel will be together in one place! Talk about a powerhouse of Keynotes! https://t.co/w2Veybrozahttps://t.co/8OWHCQv54S
It's an honor to host #CSMAfterDark at #SDPain22! Remember #PTAfterDark Where off the books conversations dig deeper into what’s ailing us. Barriers, community, embedded beliefs, power, patient perspectives…are all on the table. Well, it’s here! Details: https://t.co/gIGrindAPN
Really looking forward to Dr. VanHoose's @LisaVanHoosePT discussion session this coming up weekend!
You don't have to be in San Diego for #SDPain22, participate online (& get CEUs via @CPTAtweets): https://t.co/ZA5EAurCmQ
Registration for live stream ends 2/24 at midnight PST https://t.co/HRs8ei9YV6
#SDPain22 talk w/Dr. Bialosky @JoelBialosky "This presentation will focus on how the preferences & beliefs of the provider influence outcomes in patients w/musculoskeletal pain complaints seeking care." Don't miss out! Participate in live time from home: https://t.co/ZA5EAusacohttps://t.co/pzDOxAuvKw
You don't need to feel like you're going to miss out on #SDPain22! Join us via live streaming! You can participate in Q&A's, group discussions, get CEU via @CPTAtweets, & keep the recordings! Sign up before registration closes tonite at midnight! https://t.co/im9thmXWhx
Nice to be back planning an in person event for the 9th annual #SDPain22 San Diego Pain Summit! Haha- I hope I remember how to organize an in person conference! https://t.co/YmVd0jrCw9
And Dr. Bialosky speaking here #SDPain22 Saturday to help us learn how to identify how provider preferences & beliefs influence outcomes in patients presenting w/musculoskeletal pain complaints.
Participate here: https://t.co/ZA5EAua0Yg
Can't register after midnight tonite! https://t.co/zF42pk5QKU
Expectations of recovery seem to have quite a strong influence on recovery
The first paper I read on this was from Bialosky back in around 2015 & had a huge influence in how I started to understand those I was working with
Thread 1/
https://t.co/vboS0Cb0QZ
Super engaging #SDPain22 debate going to be🔥Register to participate in the live stream before midnight PST tonight, then you can be a part of it too! Or you can purchase access to the recordings for only $75 (which will not be on sale after Feb. 28th) https://t.co/p1Hq4KXqa7https://t.co/CQgsKrrrwx
Super engaging #SDPain22 debate going to be🔥Register to participate in the live stream before midnight PST tonight, then you can be a part of it too! Or you can purchase access to the recordings for only $75 (which will not be on sale after Feb. 28th) https://t.co/p1Hq4KXqa7https://t.co/CQgsKrrrwx
@FFizzeo @SanDiegoSummit @PainSciPod I’m excited for this for all the reasons you just said. I suspect the question hangs around more because of how clinicians can get stuck defining themselves by the techniques they use (or make money from).
When underpinning evidence evolves, it can be hard to de-adopt.
#SDPain22
Alright folks! Got a few upset emails that missed the #SDPain22 live stream deadline. I run this show myself so close registrations as I get busier-- but I will re-open until 7pm PST tonite! You don't have to miss out on the discussions, learning, & fun! https://t.co/1RVHU5Kb2L
Getting the conference room ready for tomorrow! Follow along #SDPain22 on Sat and Sun to read the latest in pain education and clinical practice right here on Twitter! (Or sign up for the live stream- you have until 7pm PST tonight! https://t.co/1RVHU5Kb2Lhttps://t.co/46MBxCMbpM
I am getting ready to go to the @SanDiegoSummit Dinner Party for #SDPain22 & I wanted to ask you something, #DisabilityTwitter @national_pain & #DisabledBlackTalk
How would you complete this sentence? #MedicalTraumaIs
For me: #MedicalTraumaIs the fear of my MD not hearing me
@SandyHiltonPT @devrajoyPT thanks for your interest on my work at #SDPain22 ! Seen in the Discussion the possibile applications on pain and drug resistant conditions! 👨🏻🔬🤓👍🏻 Would be cool to share some new data at #SDPain23
@Retlouping @SanDiegoSummit So jealous @Retlouping I would love to be there in person with you all but very much looking forward to attending virtually this weekend! #SDPain22
Getting the conference room ready for tomorrow! Follow along #SDPain22 on Sat and Sun to read the latest in pain education and clinical practice right here on Twitter! (Or sign up for the live stream- you have until 7pm PST tonight! https://t.co/1RVHU5Kb2Lhttps://t.co/46MBxCMbpM
First in person meeting for over two years, a little bit of a different experience form presenting from my living room 😃
I can finally see the whites of everyones eyes. #SDPAIN22 https://t.co/J5SFMNlphD
What is the initial injury? Systemic oppression leading to the internalized racism that creates the myth of white supremacy-@youseelogic https://t.co/TVB16oV38G
“Will you hold us both [equally] accountable truly?!?”-@youseelogic questioning how people would respond with her venting compared to if our MC @SarahHaagPT did the same #SDPAIN22 https://t.co/EHHtS2nKml
On-going unresolved #racism leads to "hardwired, systemic sensitization," surviving vs thriving.
If we talk about #painscience, you must include social aspects. It is BPS for a reason.
#sdpain22 @youseelogic #painscience #socialpain #racisminleadership
https://t.co/5mkW9T2ZF9
Inequitable accountability degrades trust, accountability…
If we don’t change this, all the DEI efforts can’t work because they aren’t doing the work to elevate EVERYONE on the team.
@youseelogic @SanDiegoSummit
#SDPain22 https://t.co/LgBnYWO89e
Paraphrasing: If we don’t address the inability to bond or bridge the gap…when you haven’t created a plan to elevate everyone on the team…you’re essentially wasting everyone’s time in terms of any DEI efforts per @youseelogic https://t.co/l6d7UWCbYs
So how do we change this?
What is an acceptable outcome for your work space?
Gonna need to have visible commitment and humility.
@youseelogic @SanDiegoSummit
#SDPain22 https://t.co/XmrTvn7KGM
Awareness of bias isn't enough. We need to be curious, allow #autonomy, & anticipate disagreements & resolve equitably. @youseelogic #sdpain22 #painscience #racisminleadership #physicaltherapy
https://t.co/vBQ05q6yrt
A lot goes into this process of having appropriate measures to promote equitable measures and safe environment for BIPOC peers #SDPAIN22 https://t.co/Gk3OQmVKpO
There are different levels of ability to address this - nice graph!
@youseelogic @SanDiegoSummit
#SDPain22
Excellent? Have the courage to challenge the status quo at all levels, every day! https://t.co/9oC1sX2jIu
What is an inclusive leader?
"Be brave enough to publicly challenge the status quo at all levels...everyday." ~ @youseelogic
#sdpain22 #racisminleadership #physicaltherapy #painscience
We're having a discussion at #SDPAIN22 and we have @nolan_syreeta in our discussion group. She highlighted how difficult it is almost always dealing with healthcare clinicians being white, the fact that she has to often self-advocate, clinician ableism, & cost being a barrier
@otbayarea is discussing in our group how we need to constantly connect with patients and ask questions to make sure they're feeling that they're being treated fairly #SDPAIN22
In regards to pre-grad school shadowing @otbayarea mentions she's only accepting students who are BIPOC for these opportunities with her because those applicants have fewer opportunities and since it's an unpaid task she's choosing to make a difference in that way #SDPAIN22
We return post individual group discussion (regarding what we’ve learned in the past 2 years in terms of our leadership as it relates to BIPOC colleagues) to discuss what insights we gained as a collective group from this activity #SDPAIN22 https://t.co/KyPlYmAZuS
@SandyHiltonPT @SanDiegoSummit @youseelogic Thoroughly enjoyed @youseelogic presentation & the breakout room discussion online, great to connect with people whilst I was cooking the tea 🤣😃 great discussion at #SDPAIN22 @SanDiegoSummit
What if when the keynote speaker at a clinical conference was supposed to speak, these two came out instead (see image) what would you think? Patients have expectations about clinicians and clinicians as individuals influence outcomes based on those expectations #SDPAIN22 https://t.co/chSE6SXA7y
The affect size is small, regardless of technique and therapist. Some people will respond positively, and some will get worse. Who is likely to respond? #SDPAIN22
Can we get better at classifying patients to find what they’re responsive to in order to become more efficient and effective in terms of clinical practice? #SDPAIN22 https://t.co/qeGqgjSUl4
We need to modify the approach for people with specific factors. Change what is being done to increase the chance for individuals to benefit from their PT. #SDPain22
Some attempts have been focused on looking at prognosis for example via the STarT Back Tool. Other approaches have been focused on clinical prediction rules and others looking at clinical practice guidelines with the hopes of ⬇️ variability & enhancing care generally #SDPAIN22
Expectations matter!
And it’s not one size fits all for patient expectation.
There’s variability with patients and with clinicians.
@JoelBialosky
@SanDiegoSummit
#SDPain22 https://t.co/xwnZd6EeL7
What if when the keynote speaker at a clinical conference was supposed to speak, these two came out instead (see image) what would you think? Patients have expectations about clinicians and clinicians as individuals influence outcomes based on those expectations #SDPAIN22 https://t.co/chSE6SXA7y
Not everyone is going to respond to the same things. There’s a lot of variability within each every individual therapist in terms of their practice as a result @JoelBialosky #SDPAIN22
The relationship between which therapist and which client has been under-considered. Changing so that the relationship is part of the therapeutic benefit the patient receives. #SDPain22
However what if the focus is shifted a bit more on figuring out what clinician would be more likely to have a better outcome with the patient by considering the clinician as a fit and focusing on the therapeutic relationship being part of treatment? #SDPAIN22 https://t.co/KwO8Mc4eU3
Who the patient sees & who treats the patient are more likely to influece outcome of treatment more than the treatment itself.
@JoelBialosky #physicaltherapy #BPS #painscience #physiotherapy #massagetherapy #sdpain22
https://t.co/QpvBr3xoam
@JoelBialosky is highlighting this study in terms of studies related to studying what clinicians were effective across different domains: https://t.co/hnSBlLBnQg #. .
Huh… look at that. Sexual function is a critical domain…
Let’s bring back the original Oswestry with the sex question!
Are you using the real one? If not, why not?
#SexIsAnADL
#SDPain22
@JoelBialosky @SanDiegoSummit https://t.co/MXMRWbsirG
Per @JoelBialosky this study also found high performing therapist were 2x more effective than the average therapist and 3x more effective than the lowest performing therapists #SDPAIN22
"Therapist domain-specific effectiveness correlated poorly across domains, suggesting that therapist competencies may be domain or disorder specific, rather than reflecting core attribute or underlying therapeutic skill construct." @JoelBialosky #sdpain22
https://t.co/2h8OgGXQ0k
"...performance-based retention of therapists could improve quality of psychotherapy...by improving average response rate & decreasing probability that a patient will be treated by therapist who consistently has poor outcomes." @JoelBialosky #sdpain22
https://t.co/i3uSzAE0mT
When removing low performing therapists, there was an effect observed for patient outcomes in this study cited by @JoelBialosky which *may* result in significant clinical impact #SDPAIN22: https://t.co/tkCh8Yjhjf
Huh… look at that. Sexual function is a critical domain…
Let’s bring back the original Oswestry with the sex question!
Are you using the real one? If not, why not?
#SexIsAnADL
#SDPain22
@JoelBialosky @SanDiegoSummit https://t.co/MXMRWbsirG
Why is one therapist more effective than another? Usually despite what people think studies tend to suggest contextual factors (which are not placebo) as being more relevant in terms of success than very specific clinical expertise #SDPAIN22 https://t.co/CX7GtKjb7o
What makes a therapist more effective? Doesn’t seem that more certifications matter. It’s the contextual factors: relationship, expectations, etc. @JoelBialosky at #sdpain22 https://t.co/VGUC9WY9fz
Awareness of receiving interventions (even if the same dosage of the same intervention is provided) does seem to matter, one example cited at #SDPAIN22 by @JoelBialosky is: https://t.co/doGTStPZME
@SarahHaagPT @karenlitzyNYC I am so glad you love it, @SarahHaagPT. Pls remember in using our conference hashtag that in all lower case, a screen reader will read it as 1 word. Camel case with all acronyms in uppercase & the 1st letter of each word capitalized ensures accessibility
#SDPain22 @SanDiegoSummit
#SDPAIN22 Per @JoelBialosky non modifiable factors are important such as gender of the therapist can make a difference in the interaction and potentially influence the outcome: https://t.co/Qi6U9NcBYY
“The sex of the provider may have a difference on how the patient communicates and possibly the outcome.” @JoelBialosky @SanDiegoSummit
This is why we need more diversity doing #MensHealth #WomensHealth #PhysicalTherapy #PelvicHealth
People need options! #SDPain22
Its highlighted by @JoelBialosky that his field of physical therapy in the United States is not truly representative of the patient population (due to the disproportionate number of white PTs relative to other groups) which may impact the outcome (negatively) #SDPAIN22
How do we make clinical practice guidelines accessible to all patient populations in all the ways they must be accessible? One size does not fit all.
@JoelBialosky @SanDiegoSummit #SDPain22 https://t.co/xg1axSDhmc
“Dose yourself” is something I advise regularly. Some nice research to help understand why. @SanDiegoSummit @JoelBialosky #SDPain22 https://t.co/LiuINHlyNp
People that are getting something (an intervention) that the therapist believes in, that intervention will more likely to be effective #SDPAIN22 https://t.co/P7P6vyY3vS
Outcomes were said to be better for PTs that had certain personalities that were calmer and more relaxed in one study #SDPAIN22 https://t.co/4GEOBUEsGj
Improved outcomes are directly connected to the existence of a therapeutic alliance between provider and patient. #ChronicPain #SDPAIN22. As patients we definitely know this is true. Work with us to get better results.
We need to collect outcomes… or you have no idea how you’re doing as a therapist.
@JoelBialosky @SanDiegoSummit
#SDPain22
<tricky to pick the tool & if it’s measuring what you’re trying to measure>
One thing @JoelBialosky mentions that both the therapeutic alliance and technical knowledge matter but having both is more effective than just being technically skilled #SDPAIN22 https://t.co/PrVgrs3sNj
Kudos to the SoMe person for @SanDiegoSummit 🤓
Great work with #SDPain22
Follow for links and quick reflections of presentations.
#Respect https://t.co/FdvZ8KP41E
“I can be proud of being Black. I can be proud of being bisexual. I can be proud of being indigenous. I can be proud of being a woman. But being disabled is not something people are OK with me being proud of.” Syreeta
Nolan
DEI convo doesn’t often include disability #SDPain22 https://t.co/WurM2zial9
Does your DEI training include disability? If not, you’re missing out. @nolan_syreeta is challenging the medical model of disability with the social model. #SDPain22 https://t.co/4XLstbBbg8
For those who are disabled a social model is more beneficial than a medical model of viewing disability, as the social model acknowledges disability as part of the person’s identity rather than a negative #SDPAIN22 https://t.co/U6nQ1mOlNQ
Racial background, low income, and mental illness/trauma are barriers in terms of seeking/receiving care for @nolan_syreeta and are often ignored by others #SDPAIN22 https://t.co/0amNNxXpFa
Medical trauma (including diagnosis denial/redaction by clinicians and being raped twice at healthcare facilities) shapes how Syreeta interacts with the healthcare system #SDPAIN22 https://t.co/RceSVCYBlb
“Any moment something hurts to a different degree” and the pain scales don’t capture that.
There are STILL people who are made to prove their pain is real.
Medically harmed… medical trauma…
<It’s our job to not make people worse in our duty to help.>
#SDPain22 https://t.co/e8miVgJxBk
‘We have accommodations in higher ed, but there are no accommodations for medicine’. @nolan_syreeta We need to do better with healthcare and as healthcare providers. #SDPain22
All of this.
Grief… see @refugeingrief which has helped me a lot with my own.
#SDPain22
Fabulous presentation by @nolan_syreeta https://t.co/doHImpiltx
Think of this image highlighting a marginalized party in the American medical system, for example a disabled person and what they get vs what they would need for appropriate justice #SDPAIN22 https://t.co/JKdPCkDH5p
We need to acknowledge the inherent ableism in our systems and properly address that by hiring disability experts to address these concerns and educate clinicians #SDPAIN22 https://t.co/yG2IPW30AF
Paraphrasing @nolan_syreeta : we should protect clinicians who are disabled from potentially losing their license due to their disability so they could be open about their disability in order to better help patients with similar/same disabilities #SDPAIN22
“Hiding it is going to hurt more in the end” @nolan_syreeta
Oh, yes.
We push through, and toughen up, and are told to have thicker skin so that we can absorb and continue despite abuse, crappy situations…
Adapting is not always adaptive.
#SDPain22
Being disabled & incapable of performing a skill as a clinician may actually be > beneficial for those who are disabled as abled parties may make disabled patients feel < comfortable. Quit placing ableist barriers for everyone, because it can harm patients ultimately #SDPAIN22
I’m looking forward to David Poulter’s #SDPS22 #SDPain22 talk: "Patient Centered Care and Developing the Therapeutic Alliance. Have We Lost Focus?" https://t.co/EPFxM8lm1H
What is the meaning of 8760? That long silence to determine the answer is the same type of silence that can be uncomfortable for people (including people who are patients) when asked difficult questions #SDPAIN22 @Retlouping https://t.co/TflxVs6sRh
Center means focus, centered means focused. The image below is not patient centered, it's patient in the middle of a circle-@Retlouping #SDPAIN22 https://t.co/OX76XbSYKi
@Retlouping sharing a lot. A lot about shifting what we think we’re doing to actually practicing in a patient focused manner. #SDPain22 https://t.co/RBe0tqv9Ig
Manual therapy assessments often make people miss the focus, as in the person they're trying to treat, and often come too close to notice some things about the person @Retlouping #SDPAIN22 https://t.co/IAVvew4JdJ
Are clinicians looking at patients too closely? Are they just focusing on one “issue” rather than looking at the bigger picture of the person?
#sdpain22 https://t.co/QPOJyBNmg3
So @Retlouping cites he's not trying to tell people what words to use but rather reflect about the person being seen by you #SDPAIN22 https://t.co/lfSG7Y0it7
@OnTapPhysio talking about needing to bring a published paper in to ‘prove’ long covid issues are real. What is it so hard to believe patients about how they feel? #SDPAIN22
We all need to understand the burden of #LongCovid it is a disabling event.
More people will be unable to work.
There is not enough space or knowledge in Long COVID clinics.
It’s still so new and there are multiple presentations.
@OnTapPhysio @SanDiegoSummit
#SDPAIN22 https://t.co/ypI7O3PzNo
Often humans with Long COVID are being told a number of things that are unfair and inappropriate not just from clinicians but everyone around them @OnTapPhysio #SDPAIN22 https://t.co/yaSiFcJaoT
Adding further to the difficulty is gaslighting, inappropriate clinical recommendations, being dismissed/downplayed, and ultimately having to navigate a system that is designed to oppress (@OnTapPhysio quotes @youseelogic for that last quote) #SDPAIN22 https://t.co/gsYctvoLtc
Remember CSM After Dark?
It was THE place for open discussion of equity, power, and justice in our profession.
Well, it is NOW #PTafterdark - join in Saturday, Feb. 26, 7:30pm PST - at #SDPS22 or online!
Hosted by @SanDiegoSummit & @Human_Collab!
https://t.co/OnW7m6h3x4 🐈
Living through episodic illness #LongCovid is full of misunderstanding or gaslighting “but you went to work”
Yes… and you don’t know how much it took to get to work! (And to work then go home)
@OnTapPhysio @SanDiegoSummit
#SDPain22
Patients with ME were predicting the complications involved with Long COVID citing @MEActNet @Dysautonomia @PTOT4MECFS as groups that were there to help early on #SDPAIN22 https://t.co/sBdxiYD6SR
@OnTapPhysio cites @PutrinoLab 's commentary on how exercise can actually be harmful in some cases such as people with Long COVID #SDPAIN22 https://t.co/YepGQ8l8TS
Awesome 😂
#BeLikeTodd
A fabulous talk on the current status of what is known with #LongCovid by @OnTapPhysio 🤓
#SDPain22
@sunsopeningband https://t.co/3s35op8aBs
I love this raw honesty @OnTapPhysio as you speak at @SanDiegoSummit for #SDPain22
I think we need to think about how we think about #LongCovid going forward in this pandemic.
Thank you for re-iterating the importance of masks.
@CDCgov seems to have moved on quickly https://t.co/dQaNlalh1E
@SanDiegoSummit @LongCOVIDPhysio @OnTapPhysio Thanks @OnTapPhysio for attempting to answer my question, & for sharing your personal & professional experience with us at #SDPAIN22 https://t.co/7DHa6qGkQW
@SarahHaagPT publicly thanks @Jerry_DurhamPT on behalf of everyone for sponsoring masks and at home rapid COVID test kits for the conference attendees #SDPain22 https://t.co/yBfKnZSA6p
What to do When working out isn't working out: insights from the physiology of post-exertional symptom exacerbation/post-exertional malaise @sunsopeningband #SDPAIN22
Time for Todd Davenport’s #SDPS22 #SDPain22 talk: "What To Do When ‘Working Out’ Isn't Working Out: Insights from the Physiology of Post-Exertional Symptom Exacerbation" https://t.co/V5neAcWHxD
Live from Northern CA, we have @sunsopeningband here and a camera where he can see us too!
Fun use of tech for accessibility @SanDiegoSummit
#SDPain22 https://t.co/hZTkdlLR53
#PESE or PEM--not just fatigue, many other symptoms come along and they can seem unbelievable: breathing problem, cognitive changes, headaches, feeling light-headed, muscle pain, nausea #SDPAIN22
Shown are the results from a test of exertional testing: riding a bike until exhaustion via maximum effort (not standard biking by any means). As you can see people with CFS have far more symptoms and far greater difficulty recovering #SDPain22 https://t.co/QDmVLuWc4X
There is definitely variability in how long symptoms last per Chu et al. 2018 (article link provided in previous tweet) #SDPain22 https://t.co/BR8jbRZ4Vb
This is a LOT of symptoms. The variability of presentation is 😳
We will see more people identified with #LongCovid believe them, help them.
@sunsopeningband @SanDiegoSummit
#SDPain22 https://t.co/CQVzWoRZFU
Again Davis et al is cited and a great example of that a lot of this work is patient led as a lot of clinicians are not listening #SDPain22 https://t.co/nXk6scWViD
Long COVID is most prevalent in seemingly mild cases involving people that didn't go to the hospital/ICU (as highlighted by Davis et al) #SDPain22 https://t.co/xrzzZrun8B
Stevens Protocol cited (1st test and then a 2nd test 24 hours later) #SDPain22 [people have to actually choose to be symptomatic to allow research testing to be done] https://t.co/hT0uwGiZeR
Analogy: ME/CFS is like being a hybrid car with an unreliable gas engine. This impacts the ability to sustain motion over time or generate power for more exertion. #SDPAIN22
When the person with PEM is ready for exercise (which would require a tolerance to physical activity), it shouldn't be at the cost of their daily routine #SDPain22 https://t.co/7EP9ZwKgBV
One thing that some clinical need to be reminded of is that even in the case of athletes when overtrained they aren't supposed to do more exercise, they're supposed to rest. So maybe we shouldn't be so quick to push exercise for people with PEM @sunsopeningband #SDPain22
You know you’re in a room of clever folk when the talks are awesome AND the questions afterwards are impressive.
@LisaVanHoosePT and @Retlouping bringing the cellular biology & metabolic pathways questions to @sunsopeningband
Glad there is video for later!
#SDPain22
Thanks for live-tweeting my talk! I had an awesome time with such clearly engaged attendees, even at the end of a long day, even though I was remote, and even with my relentless monotone. I appreciate you all. #SDPain22 @SanDiegoSummit https://t.co/GEQ87k3M6l
She is articulating her experience as a parent of a child who had a health condition that couldn't simply be tested via imaging or some blood work. It was like a form of torture. In her son's case he was able to recover from his health condition #SDPain22 https://t.co/HzEz45bVsw
“What torture is this, when you have a condition that you can’t prove what the cause is?” @MelanieNoel
Talking of the torture of not knowing… and wondering what is happening and not being able to find answers.
#DiagnosticUncertainty
#SDPAIN22 https://t.co/2rf7eaNILz
Article cited by @MelanieNoel which involves an unrelenting search for an explanation of a person's low back pain [#SDPain22]: https://t.co/zFNqy4162e #SDPain22
"Lack of a clear diagnosis is associated w/ distress, further treatment seeking & uncertainty...having visible evidence & a clear diagnosis gave patients' pain more social credibility. @MelanieNoel #sdpain22
https://t.co/FpSyMvbny0
Diagnostic Orientation
What does the person with pain think about their diagnosis, do they believe it is right? Accurate? Or are they still searching for an explanation?
Do we ask?
@MelanieNoel @SanDiegoSummit
#SDPain22
"...we propose that diagnostic uncertainty be defined as a 'subjective perception of an inability to provide an accurate explanation of the patient's health problem.'" @MelanieNoel #sdpain22 #chronicpain
https://t.co/yBsm16Ccyf
People are not going to buy into treatment methods if they're still being pushed to search for new answers for explaining their pain @MelanieNoel #SDPain22
Where did it all start? Where are you now in your journey? Where do you see this going? What do you remember about getting the diagnosis & what do you make of that? #SDPAIN22
A fascinating question: where did it all start?
Whatever you got going on, what if I asked you ‘where did it all start?’ and ‘where are you now on your journey’
@MelanieNoel @SanDiegoSummit
#SDPAIN22 https://t.co/92ucCAAPZn
“They said ‘#chronicregionalpainsyndrome.’ Mm, a whole bunch of words that really tells us nothing.”
@MelanieNoel #sdpain22 #chronicpain https://t.co/Tvf4Tercrp
This is important.
Certainly something I hear. The frustration of not understanding WHY it’s happening.
I’m thinking of #HardFlaccid
#SDPAIN22 https://t.co/wTBIBWtj8J
If so many children (and parents) were not given any explanation of why they have #chronicpain, how can clinicians improve this? @MelanieNoel #sdpain22 #pediatricpain https://t.co/2SfYAxTse8
"Could you be uncertain but also honest about it and focus on function? I don't know" [that's for the clinicians to figure out to some extent] #SDPain22 https://t.co/sCBPEWwgJG
Contradictory messaging that comes from the diagnostic uncertainty of clinicians is potentially harmful and create some significant fear #SDPain22 https://t.co/7S920CGz47
Everyone has their own origin story, clinical spiels that don’t change to meet the needs of the individual can’t work.
It can’t be a protocol.
@MelanieNoel @SanDiegoSummit
#SDPain22
When her son is doing well @MelanieNoel buys into the diagnosis of a lung disease, but when he's not she starts to doubt and question the diagnosis #SDPain22 https://t.co/vdh3UrZaJF
Diagnostic Certainty is precarious and isn’t easy to maintain.
If there is a relapse, the uncertainty gets worse again.
@MelanieNoel @SanDiegoSummit
#SDPain22
We end the lecture with a sad closing point from @MelanieNoel and the most devastating consequence of this all is abandonment by the system. Stella in this case had 17 spinal taps before going to the pain clinic #SDPain22 https://t.co/Gf08ZQkznW
Ready for the fire to be lit!
#SDPAIN22
@devrajoyPT @youseelogic @MelanieNoel @Tash_Stanton @SanDiegoSummit @MassageFitMag @OnTapPhysio @Retlouping
@MikeMakher please share! https://t.co/xo0srR1Nrn
“Barriers, community, imbedded beliefs, power, patient perspectives…a safe space for clinicians to discuss and brainstorm solutions addressing the enormous, untold suffering in our communities due to these inequities.”@SanDiegoSummit @CBarnesPT #PTAfterDark #SDPain22 #DisruptOT https://t.co/AevMd3PniV
If you've been following along we've had some AMAZING talks already! They are being recorded and you can watch them on March 3rd! Limited time only for $75 you can get access as a single product after Feb. 28th, you can only get it on Pain Summit Online. https://t.co/P1fatGYi8D
Slept 4.5 hours my brain doesn’t do well at in person conferences after 2 years presenting from my living room.
So much visual,verbal, mental stimulation & sensory overload.
Plus high quality presenters, & meeting so many people from SoMe in person + getting to chat.
#SDPAIN22
Looking forward for an exciting session on Zentangle today for @SanDiegoSummit
#SDPAIN22 #sdpain #zentime #art #corporateartsession #arttime https://t.co/RQ8Y5pTnTz
@JDChelettePT The work of the brilliant @MaxiMiciak may be of use in this journey.
The necessary conditions of engagement for the therapeutic relationship in physiotherapy: an interpretive description study
https://t.co/tmKIfICelvhttps://t.co/yYB7dfJaWj
There's something cathartic about making art that cannot be explained but onlyl experienced and shared.
#zentangle w/ @HimalankaCzt #sdpain22 @SandyHiltonPT @MikeMakher @devrajoyPT @LisaVanHoosePT https://t.co/S40LYMRUjk
We had a variety of wonderful work from our attendees #SDPain22 #Zentangle #MindfulArt @LisaVanHoosePT @Retlouping @HeidiSueRoth1 https://t.co/dk5IcjC6Nz
Zentangles with @HimalankaCzt @SanDiegoSummit virtual was a relaxing way to start the day. Another potential way to ground at the start of a session and all that was needed was pen, paper, a pencil, and a smudging tool/q tip. #SDPain22 #OT365 https://t.co/Pc6CwKxBxy
Continuing to drink from a firehose at #SDPS22 #SDPain22. Up next: "Coming To Terms With Complexity: Navigating The Terrain Between Research And Practice" by Matthew Low https://t.co/Sao2HDoDRq
Now we're with Matt Low who works in the NHS. Coming to terms with complexity: navigating the terrain between Research & Practice #SDPAIN22 #ChronicPain
An individual person is a complex system. We can't control for complexity, it is inherent [in regards to healthcare] and it is not linear #SDPain22 https://t.co/20SqQIRreU
Healthcare is becoming more complex, considering #research, politics, social issues. @MattLowPT kicks off w/ understanding & acknowledging that making sense of research to practice is no straight line. #sdpain22 #patientnarrative https://t.co/7feLP1CgSu
@MattLowPT Complexity in healthcare: nonlinear and complex. While we don’t understand everything, can we not teach future physios/healthcare practitioners that uncertainty is a thing? We don’t know it all. And yet we can still do much to help. #SDPain22
The story and the person ARE important! The clinical encounter is an emerging process, showing that the whole is more than the sum of its parts. #SDPAIN22 #ChronicPain
We got an Encanto reference from @MattLowPT , that each member of the family comes together to make more than the sum of their parts, same principle applies to @JohnLauner 's whole is more than the sum of parts" rule in regards to clinical interactions #SDPain22 https://t.co/0CN2oQskNf
@SarahHaagPT @MattLowPT Indeed and we must avoid swapping one dogma, perhaps an old cliched dogma, for a new dogma- perhaps a revolutionary dogma #SDPAIN22
@KfizzSimon @MattLowPT Agreed. The amazing thing about #SDPAIN22 are the discussions and lack of dogma. As well as the heathy dose of common sense and honesty from both clinicians and patients. And the humility and desire for more understanding.
Causation is a relational thing: the process of lighting a match may or may not work despite the action being consistent each time it's taken. #SDPAIN22 @MattLowPT
On Evidence, one challenge is we often have internalized results in research that are non-generalizable in the real world #SDPain22 https://t.co/5E567X4ftX
There's an inferential gap between research and application in the real world. The context of the research has a connection to the effectiveness of the data to individual patients. #SDPAIN22 @MattLowPT #ChronicPain
This is the must watch video I talked about in my presentation yesterday at the San Diego Pain Summit #SDPAIN22 #personfocused @SanDiegoSummit https://t.co/D1PIMl29kmhttps://t.co/Rn87kevPtC
A must watch video for ever clinician. Watched this again on my presentation yesterday, sums up “person focused” better than I ever could. https://t.co/0AEJOJgyu6
Humbled by Dr Kieran Sweeney
“Being cared for and not being cared about”
“Inadvertently heaping small humiliations” https://t.co/F1dPoTAekO
“People are ecosystems” @LisaVanHoosePT
Lisa clarifying my “this is a trick question” frustration and pointing to the glorious variability and wonderful complexity of a person.
#SDPain
Every person's experience is different. So, you have to take their narrative seriously. Intersubjectivity are what actually happens in a clinical/therapeutic relationship. #SDPAIN22 #CnronicPain
Both the patient and the clinician have to come to a mutual judgement to create some form of messy coherence in the context of the encounter which leads to co-constructing the narrative and collaborating to move forward #SDPain22 https://t.co/Mbz6H06X02
“People are ecosystems” @LisaVanHoosePT
Lisa clarifying my “this is a trick question” frustration and pointing to the glorious variability and wonderful complexity of a person.
#SDPain
There is a relationship between philosophy, science, and the arts to create that intersubjectivity for the word. #SDPAIN22 @MattLowPT https://t.co/Vdx4xyEg80
New blog post by @Retlouping on genuine complexity and the biopsychosocial model!
What’s in a word? It’s all Biopsychosocial, and a part of the complex human “ecosystem”
https://t.co/8F3MFJep3A
The thread that supports my presentation at the San Diego Pain Summit yesterday @SanDiegoSummit #SDPAIN22 highlights person focused and antagonistic synergy. https://t.co/PWvSqgLsN0
Nice long walk in the rain to clear my head and came up with yes another bloody thread.
“Old man shouting at Patient (person) Centred (focused) Care, The Therapeutic Alliance, Shared Decision Making and Therapist Patient Synergy”
Enjoy the journey with me. (Therapeutic ramblings) https://t.co/Wt8IafYliK
Knowledge isn’t static. It’s crafted, updated, revised—going back to Plato’s Theaetetus.
Don’t get stuck in one way of thinking. Keep updating & question what you know.
@MattLowPT #sdpain22 https://t.co/Me6vP3CqOi
Related to the Complex component: Causation can be associated with strength and direction, but not provide definitive understanding of what happened in that moment at that time [in regards to healthcare] #SDPain22 https://t.co/FyODBevXn7
Sometimes you have to be a self-organizing system in the midst of chaos and this can shape how you make clinical decisions #SDPain22 https://t.co/u46rYlEz3B
Clear also means you can understand & measure all the data. The information makes sense, it can be categorized and shows the need for a defined response. #SDPAIN22
Clinicians (& researchers) often mistaken one factor to "cause" an effect.
But #complexity has no linear relationship or dichotomy btwn cause & effect.
Yet many are still looking for a "one-cause" factor which leads to "one solution." Think "fascia" & "TPs."
@MattLowPT #sdpain22
New blog post by @Retlouping on genuine complexity and the biopsychosocial model!
What’s in a word? It’s all Biopsychosocial, and a part of the complex human “ecosystem”
https://t.co/8F3MFJep3A
Being able to work fluidly in different ways depending on the way the context presents - we need to understand the context as best we can first. Looking forward to googling the Cynefin framework after this @MattLowPT @SanDiegoSummit #SDPAIN22
I think it may be inherent within human nature to be uncomfortable with uncertainty but within the clinical encounters, it may be the clinicians who are more uncomfortable with it. #SDPAIN22
Matt says if we think in the psychological context this is very much relational which contrasts from the biomedical framework. It's extremely difficult as a clinician to use BPS when these philosophical concepts contrast so much #SDPain22 https://t.co/TP348MlvLn
Yes! Social determinants of health are a critical part of every client’s narrative! I’m so excited for Lisa VanHoose’s #SDPS22 #SDPain22 talk: "Your Pain Evaluation Is Incomplete Without A Zipcode Assessment" https://t.co/OGy5fNX2CO
@TravoliRavioli @MSmith_DPT @nakedphysio @DerekGriffin86 @painphysio Found this “dispositional ontology accommodates holism, complexity, heterogeneity, individual propensities, or causal mecha- nisms to create a person‐centred approach that favours uniqueness.” Which doesn’t seem to reject causality outright-
https://t.co/bNXymn5rrX #SDPain22
We need to 1)think we are wrong about some things, 2)consider the person's location & easy ways to do that while recognizing the person may still not be average relative to their location, & 3)you're still likely using the biomedical model despite your assertions of BPS #SDPain22 https://t.co/qUBnulHThN
My entire soul needed to hear @LisaVanHoosePT today…
Ok, I’m a fan. She has clarity and humor and challenges me in the most lovely way.
<growing… daily>
#SDPain22 https://t.co/3UJGdCkqi5
"There's a huge difference between who needs care & who provides the care."
Are you using zip code, local, county, or state data intentionally in your practice?
@LisaVanHoosePT #sdpain22 #physicaltherapy https://t.co/j7jqHEg3Qa
The conversation of big data and health care is already happening. If zip code, local, county, isn't being used, the benefit of big data isn't providing any benefit. #SDPain22 @LisaVanHoosePT
Every @SanDiegoSummit since 2015 always left me wondering: Why aren't there more #manualtherapists learning this, esp. in #massagetherapy where they have more time & flexibility w/ their clients/patients than PTs & MDs? #sdpain22 https://t.co/53vOkl11ht
We're considering the patient's report in relation to the pain diagram from the case study by @ptjedimaster & @CarolACourtney1 #SDPain22 https://t.co/G7g1UaxcX7
Should you call yourself a "biopsychosocial" practitioner if you DO NOT apply & acknowledge the "social" part in your actions? #sdpain22 #painscience #barrierstohealthcare
Normally the party who makes the judgement and decisions in a clinical encounter is the clinician (despite best intentions) even in the context of clinicians trying to utilize EBP. Often clinicians use themselves as the standard to compare to which involves bias #SDPain22 https://t.co/WoRLdt0ISH
Where could implicit bias be involved in this case study?[attendee answers] [bias will be present during every clinical encounter] #SDPain22 https://t.co/Yyy4zObaPq
We have access to some data [shown below] but Deloitte [which requires payment for their location based data] can actually determine who has chronic low back pain based on their credit card purchases #SDPain22 https://t.co/O3sStNJC0E
"Every person is an ecosystem"-Dr.VanHoose, don't just consider their reporting but also consider contextual factors including their zip code #SDPain22 https://t.co/aPGPpY4XeD
What ultimately happened in the case study is shown in the slide. Maybe if they would have considered the person's zip code they could have shortened the duration of care #SDPain22 https://t.co/lo6pqqhcc3
Are you ready to rumble?! #SDPS22 #SDPain22: "Does Manual Therapy Suck?: A Debate For The Ages" (Moderated by Marcos Lopez, DPT) https://t.co/QiYfBcJFeb
“A satire debate”
??
Let’s see how this goes… it’s sounding like the hot mess they do at the APTA national conference.
Mean and looking for the easy jokes.
🤢
#SDPain22
Fingers crossed I’m wrong.
There is so much that we need to talk about regarding what is happening with our hands.
Cheap exaggeration avoids the challenging questions.
And… humor can get a point across.
Me … suspending judgment 🤨 and skeptical
#SDPain22
I am not the most hip person in the room, and I'm always down for a discussion. I think I'm missing the point of this debate, and I just hope that the students in the room know this is meant to be comedy. Please do not use this as your only source of info. #SDPain22
Don't ever tell a person what to do [especially don't tell them to calm down or relax] if they're upset and you want to de-escalate #SDPain22 https://t.co/mqgcwDWu9F
I can’t believe it’s already time for the last session! Tasha Stanton’s "Rethinking Osteoarthritis - Is It More Than Just The Joint?" seems fitting to wrap up #SDPS22 #SDPain22 https://t.co/QVGvKbVGLH
I love this woman she makes so much sense & as a person who lives with #Osteoarthritis myself she has totally altered the way I think about it! @Tash_Stanton #SDPain22 https://t.co/YUaojiiTii
If the idea of "wear and tear" is real, this leads to treating the joint as vulnerable, avoiding activities leading to surgery as the only perceived result. #SDPain22
Essentially Dr.Stanton suggests a reasonable perspective is that we have a dynamic protective system that tries to warn us about danger #SDPain22 https://t.co/5MbnoDJKHB
@Tash_Stanton referencig the great work of @BenD_NZ
@SanDiegoSummit #SDPain22
Words have power to heal or harm, use them carefully and with intent. https://t.co/qDRAU4w3Ss
Our words matter - and it’s on us to be consistent with our language.
@Tash_Stanton
catastrophic phrasing is anti-helpful (me).
#SDPain22 @SanDiegoSummit
In these cases maladaptive prognostic certainty is being provided creating unnecessary perspectives of tissue vulnerability leading to functional limitations #SDPain22 https://t.co/tIA6ntmfGa
“What we have here (with osteoarthritis) is “maladaptive prognostic certainty”
And we could shape the course in a better way. @Tash_Stanton
@SanDiegoSummit
#SDPain22 https://t.co/djfaYh19fU
@jaysonsipress I think it speaks to the language we use with patients. Maybe food for thought.
The Enduring Impact of What Clinicians Say to People With Low Back Pain
https://t.co/8qz8WMBrl6https://t.co/z1Zn2Tq06r
"There are those clinical moments where we can shape the course towards the certainty of decline or shape the course towards possibility in the future [with our words and language]" - @Tash_Stanton @SanDiegoSummit #SDPain22
The words and language we choose can either contain the capacity to heal or have the potential to cause dev- astating and lasting harm. Let’s strive to be better. #SDPAIN22 https://t.co/bJgRqW1XTN
These type of scan findings in relation to Osteoarthritis highlight how typical findings are and they don't determine what one is capable of #SDPain22 https://t.co/BZ8ZDi1iGw
“Prognostic Certainty of Decline”
Give instead a message of robustness of hope with osteoarthritis… which is what the evidence shows!
@Tash_Stanton @SanDiegoSummit
#SDPain22 https://t.co/FIxjtfcUXD
“What we have here (with osteoarthritis) is “maladaptive prognostic certainty”
And we could shape the course in a better way. @Tash_Stanton
@SanDiegoSummit
#SDPain22 https://t.co/djfaYh19fU
Bioplasticity is possible though out life.
Humans are adaptable and will adapt give the opportunity & right environment and physical stressors.
#SDPain22
One of the things I love most about updated pain info is that every single day I get to tell people that they and their bodies are enough, not fragile, and pretty darn amazing. I think embodying this excitement helps the person in front of me with their paradigm shift
#SDpain22
Thank you @Tash_Stanton for joining our virtual discussion groups - it was great to meet with you and thanks for the bonus discussion Q on conversations re: living well with pain, conversations re: weight, & messages we convey in language we use @SanDiegoSummit #SDPain22
Thank you @SanDiegoSummit for a fantastic conference! As a student it was incredibly inspiring to hear from pioneers in the field. Even virtually the atmosphere was amazing. Looking forward to attending again as I progress in my career! #SDPain22
@DrKeatsPT At #SDPain22 everyone (except the person on stage speaking) was masked during the event and had to show proof of vaccination + booster (most with N95s). Don’t lose hope, there will be some who are more careful
The @SanDiegoSummit was an incredible experience. Thank you so much for putting together such an awesome event. The speakers and attendees dropped knowledge 💣s all weekend. As Arnold would say: https://t.co/Qcnm6yHd1W
Up late thinking about why I love @SanDiegoSummit & want everyone to support this fabulous summit.
It’s little w time to hear & learn from everyone.
It’s interdisciplinary. Including people who are dealing w pain. There is wisdoms everywhere & we need to hear it. #SDPain22
To all the University of St. Augustine for Health Sciences Physical Therapy student who attended this weekends San Diego Pain Summit, nice to meet and interact with you all.
Good luck in this weeks exams #SDPain22 @SanDiegoSummit
This isn’t surprising after a weekend of talks discussing social determinants of health and Lisa VanHoose’s talk about big data and implications of its use in healthcare. How would this data be impacted by inclusion of all those without credit? #SDPain22 https://t.co/17MuHkKICx
On the plane and reflecting on #SDPain22 🤓
It remains my favorite conference.
I’ve a lot to think about this year:
* check zip code data of patients & ask better questions.
* a ton of papers to read, thanks @SanDiegoSummit for the tweet references!
* build + community
Practice evolves not as much from more “tools” as it does from the reconsideration and reflection of practice and approach. @SanDiegoSummit presentations are the conversations that spur that change. #SDPain22 https://t.co/JP2m86TBfC
If you've been following along we've had some AMAZING talks already! They are being recorded and you can watch them on March 3rd! Limited time only for $75 you can get access as a single product after Feb. 28th, you can only get it on Pain Summit Online. https://t.co/P1fatGYi8D
@SteveOsovsky Here was how our cat companion spent an hour with me after I got home from #SDPain22. He usually wants care and grooming any time I travel. https://t.co/BuwmXcfq66
For those who attended #SDPain22, this series on an Anti-racism framework for pain research is a great (and necessary!) follow-up.
#Antiracism #PainResearch #Equity https://t.co/DnbzmWpUfm
@otbayarea @SanDiegoSummit It was such a pleasure to meet you and I thoroughly enjoyed our talks. This image is my brain post-#SDPS22, so much to investigate in my personal journey toward being a little less wrong every day. #SDPain22 #Weenus https://t.co/zlcyo6A8XO
#SDPain22 recordings, incl speaker biographies, citations, downloadable slides (if speaker allowed sharing), & downloadable handouts (if any). Get access for $75! Sale ends 2/28 11:59 pm PST. After which they will only be available on Pain Summit Online. https://t.co/P1fatGYi8D
Forgot to mention earlier in my thank you thread but I also want to thank ALL participants at #SDPain22 for abiding the mask wearing policy. Not once did I see anyone wear mask improperly/throw a fuss. It was nice to see a lg room full of folks who care about their communities!
#SDPain22 recordings, incl speaker biographies, citations, downloadable slides (if speaker allowed sharing), & downloadable handouts (if any). Get access for $75! Sale ends 2/28 11:59 pm PST. After which they will only be available on Pain Summit Online. https://t.co/P1fatGYi8D
@FutureDrDukes @SanDiegoSummit @BlkDisHigherEd @AlexisSMobley Thank you so much, I really did go so well. It was an honor to be invited to share my patient perspective. I was so nervous excited the whole time. I loved visiting with the #SDPain22 virtual attendees before their Zoom breakout rooms.
@staks5th A little bit of Empathy may be as effective even more effective on pain levels than most so called “active interventions” maybe combine the two? 😊 https://t.co/RFJjp8tqN7 1-2 point improvement in pain on a 0-10 scale is a fair reduction for just learning to listen? https://t.co/CnuaJaGXoB
Post San Diego Pain Summit COVID PRC test booked for today.
Thanks to everyone for such vigilant indoor mask wearing during the weekend.
#SDPain22
@SanDiegoSummit
#massagetherapy treatment & education are still heavily based on the idea #pain stems from injury to tissues, #poorposture, & pre-scientific ideas.
Evidence since 1800s finds that our pain experience is much more complex than a "root cause." #sdpain22
https://t.co/67XXGRiZLM
On the plane and reflecting on #SDPain22 🤓
It remains my favorite conference.
I’ve a lot to think about this year:
* check zip code data of patients & ask better questions.
* a ton of papers to read, thanks @SanDiegoSummit for the tweet references!
* build + community
#SDPain22 UPDATE the Wenis is insensitive to mechanical stimulus, but not thermal ( I touched mine to a boiling kettle for research purposes, it hurt like 💩) our body adapts, we weight bear through our Wenis, maybe this is why it’s insensitive to mechanical stim. but not heat? https://t.co/E4HlqYGuFA